Collective and suppletive plurals

In short

sg group gen dat/loc acc ins
brat braća braće braći braću braćom
dete deca dece deci decu decom
gospodin gospoda gospode gospodi gospodu gospodom
čovek ljudi ljudi ljudima ljude ljudima

braća / deca: modifier feminine singular (moja braća, s mojom braćom), verb plural (deca spavaju, deca su zaspala). ljudi: masculine plural throughout (ovi ljudi su došli). Counting: dva brata, troje dece, dva čoveka, pet ljudi.

B2 · Lesson 4 · Zbirne i nepravilne množine: braća, deca, ljudi

The full explanation, from the lesson that teaches this rule

Three of the most frequent words for people have no ordinary plural ending at all. Instead each has a completely different word for 'many': brat → braća (brothers), dete → deca (children), čovek → ljudi (people). A fourth, gospodin → gospoda (gentlemen), works exactly like braća. The words themselves are easy to learn. The real difficulty is how the words around them agree.

braća and deca: grammatically one feminine noun

Braća and deca mean several people, but in form they are a single feminine noun ending in -a, like žena. They decline like žena in the singular: braća, braće, braći, braću, braćom — never with plural endings like -ama. These are called collective nouns: one word for a whole group.

The plural words and their cases
meaningnominativegenitivedative / locativeaccusativeinstrumental
brothersbraćabraćebraćibraćubraćom
childrendecadecedecidecudecom
gentlemengospodagospodegospodigospodugospodom
peopleljudiljudiljudimaljudeljudima

Ljudi is different: it is a real masculine plural, declined like prijatelji — only the stem is borrowed from another word. So ljudi takes ordinary masculine plural agreement: ovi ljudi, s ljudima. The one surprise is the genitive plural, which is ljudi again rather than ending in -a like prijatelja: mnogo ljudi.

Agreement: modifiers are feminine singular, the verb is plural

Here is the heart of the lesson. With braća and deca, a word that DESCRIBES the noun (a possessive, a demonstrative, an adjective) takes the feminine singular form, in whatever case the noun is in: moja braća, moje braće, s mojom braćom, mojoj deci, svoju malu decu. But the VERB is plural: deca spavaju, braća žive, braća su stigla. In the past tense the participle and any predicate adjective end in -a with su: deca su zaspala, deca su bila umorna.

noundescribing word (feminine singular)present (plural)past (su + -a)
braćamoja braća, s mojom braćombraća žive u Nišubraća su stigla
decanaša deca, našoj decideca spavajudeca su zaspala
ljudiovi ljudi, s tim ljudimaljudi radeljudi su došli

Ljudi follows none of this: it takes masculine plural everywhere, like any masculine plural noun — ovi dobri ljudi, ljudi su došli.

Two classic slips. First, do not make the modifier plural: it is moja braća and s mojom braćom, never with moji or mojim. Second, do not make the verb singular: it is deca su došla and deca spavaju, never with je or spava. Describing word: feminine singular. Verb: plural.

The genitive: counting and 'how many'

After mnogo, koliko, nemam and similar, braća and deca take their feminine singular genitive (braće, dece), while ljudi takes the genitive plural, which is also ljudi: Koliko imaš braće? Nemam dece. Bilo je mnogo ljudi. With a describing word, the same split shows: mnogo male dece but mnogo dobrih ljudi.

  • Two to four brothers are counted with the singular word: dva brata, tri brata.
  • Children are counted with collective numerals: dvoje dece, troje dece.
  • People: dva čoveka, tri čoveka, but pet ljudi, mnogo ljudi.

Addressing a group uses its own form: Deco! (Children!), Braćo! (Brothers!), Ljudi! (People!), and the fixed Dame i gospodo! (Ladies and gentlemen!).

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6 of the 14 questions this lesson asks in the app. Type the form or pick the answer.

  1. What kind of noun is *braća* (brothers) grammatically?

  2. After *nemam* or *koliko*, which form of *braća* do you use?

  3. Imam ___ i jednu sestru.

  4. Idem u park sa(dete).

  5. Koliko imate(dete)?

  6. Na igralištu je bilo mnogo male(dete).

Examples from the course

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  1. Koliko imaš braće?

    How many brothers do you have?

  2. Kupili smo poklone našoj deci.

    We bought presents for our children.

  3. Deco, pozdravite ujaka i ujnu!

    Children, say hello to your uncle and aunt!

  4. Dame i gospodo, mladenci stižu!

    Ladies and gentlemen, the newlyweds are arriving!

  5. Moja braća žive u Nišu.

    My brothers live in Niš.

  6. Nemam braće, ja sam jedinac.

    I have no brothers, I'm an only child. (man speaking)

  7. Pričao sam s mojom braćom.

    I talked with my brothers. (man speaking)

  8. Ti ljudi su došli iz Kragujevca.

    Those people came from Kragujevac.

  9. Koliko je ljudi bilo na krštenju?

    How many people were at the christening?

  10. Na svadbi sam upoznala mnogo dobrih ljudi.

    I met a lot of good people at the wedding. (woman speaking)

Sentences in the course that use this rule: 223

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